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frank. paul ryan was very frank over the weekend in saying the ticket has had a tough couple weeks. when you have a tough couple weeks you're enthusiasm level can decline. a good performance in a presidential debate can gin party enthusiasm. that may happen on wednesday for either side. we'll have to see what transpires in the debate. jenna: we always have to wait to actually talk about it until thursday morning. >> that's right. jenna: let me go back to that appearance point that you made. just by having mitt romney on stage with the president, many say that is what is going to make him look more presidential as you mentioned maybe create more support or inspire certain folks out there. "real clear politics" had an interesting article and unnamed democrat was quoted and i will quote him to you or her to you, larry because i would like your opinion on this. saying this is not a debate. this is a beauty pageant. people like a candidate through the heart, not through the mind this election is now about character and not about the economy. what do you think about, that, larry, a beauty page
granderson and anna navarro. let's take a listen to paul ryan this morning on fox. >> yes, we've had some missteps, but at the end of the day the choice is really clear. we're giving people a really clear choice. we have these pro growth solutions for opportunity and upward mobility in the dynamic economy. you have the president promising four more years of stagnation and dependency. >> paul ryan acknowledges what he calls missteps and admitting mistakes, missteps. is that a deliberate strategy? >> i don't know if it's a smart strategy. but i know it's a realistic strategy. obviously they're down in the polls. i think he's being humble. i think he's being realistic. he's admitting there's been mistakes maitt romney said he didn't make the best articulation when speaking of the 47%. they do need to eat a little humble pie and admit things are not all rosie. we can't deny what the polls are showing. we may be able to argue with the polls a little bit, but things need to pick up. i think paul ryan admitting that this morning is a good thing and refreshing from a politician. >> effectively wh
with by security. this isus. th is what mitt romney needs. the convenient yesterday with paul ryan where they were together for the first time since the convention, for the second time since the convention was really flat. here we have a big crowd but some are comparing it to a pryizcr nessarily a general election sized crowd. president obama will be at the university campus where there will no doubt be thousands if not tens of thousands. the governorereave -- a h wa gn introduction where he talked about how things are getting better in ohio. of course, they are. the unemployment rate is about 7.2% below the national average. so that's part of the headwind romney is fighting in this ste. g but, aga, th ishest o th ts. it's all about the economy. yesterday he made an interesting pitch to the crowd saying, i need you to go out and tuque to obama. vote for me this time. so they're really trying to target tho voters. as i heard you say earlier,n thpresland in crowd, the romney spinners are pushing back on the polls. they insist they're within the margin of error but they offer no proof of that. he's h
of a detailed alternative that people can get their arms around. even at a paul ryan event this morning, a woman, a supporter got up in the crowd and said where are the details, what are you guys actually going to do? forget about his opponents' demanding it, his supporters are demanding it, saying give us something to vote for. >> ron, being perfectly hoppest, and you have already disclosed you helped prepare governor romney in 2008, are you not disappointed that he hasn't been more specific and more detailed, honestly? >> no, honestly i'm not. >> you're not? >> i'm not dispointed. it's about a vision for the kukt. if you want to talk about specifics, look at what president obama said. >> talk about mr. romney. if you're going to talk about the president, we will have to close the discussion now, but if you're -- >> this is a martin game here, of course. let's not beat up on the president -- >> we're just talking about mr. romney. >> the fact of the matter is what i said at the outseth still stands. i think it's about a vision of where you want to take the country and how you want to move forwa
, congressman paul ryan in an interesting brushed aside polls showing president obama leading in several key state telling anchor chris wallace, governor romney will win come november. and one of his most outspoken supporters, new jersey governor chris christie, also making a bold prediction that governor romney will do very well and his performance could change the whole race. here is governor christy from earlier today. >> he's going to come in wednesday night and have his vision for america and he's to contrast what his view is and the president's record is and the president's view for the future and the race will be turned upside down thursday morning. >> harris: we'll kick off our coverage with campaign carl cameron. and republicans are trying to draw a distinction betweening mr. obama and the republicans leading up to wednesday night. >> they have and mitt romney has been doing his level best to kind of lowering expectation. the enthusiasm from chris christie and paul ryan may be run counter to the candidate's desire and lower the bar and make it easier for him to appear to overachieve
, that's unreal! this is where it gets wonderfully awkward. mitt romney and paul ryan are at a rally. the crowd is chanting for ryan and romney tries to get them to chant for him too. watch this. [ cheers and applause ] >> woi! that's quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan that's something. wait a second romney/ryan! romney/ryan! there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> cenk: oh jesus, chanted that. that was awesomely awkward. let me give you one final piece of context. the candidate leading two or three weeks following the convention has gone on to win every modern presidential election every one of them over the last 15 presidential elections. we are two or three weeks from the last convention. in fact there is only 41 days left. that's it. you are not going to make up leads like that in ohio pennsylvania florida, states that you desperately need. barring a major miracle, not a game changer, not two game changers, maybe not even three game changers, barring a major miracle this thing is already over. everybody is going to tell you all of these things becaus
what mitt romney and paul ryan want to do about it. >> well, the first-- the first bit of good news is that mitt romney and paul ryan are not going to change medicare for those seniors. they're going to change medicare for folks like me, who just turned 50, and younger, who are going to need to know that if you want to have any semblance of medicare, you're going to have to make some changes to it. here's the dirty little secret, bob-- the president of the united states knows that, too, but he's not talkin talking abo. he's not being honest with the american people about it. in the end, i think the american people, if we lay out our vision well, will reward us for tell truth. and the president right now is avoiding the truth the way he's avoided so many hard truths over the last four years. >> schieffer: governor, if mitt romney does not win, are you going to run for president in 2016? >> mitt romney's gonna win, so it's a question that-- know, i don't need to address. i hope in 2016 to be work hard for mitt romney's reelection as president of the united states. and any conversation
's doing with foreign policy. >> gretchen: yesterday. paul ryan from wisconsin was asked about president obama's foreign policy and this is what he had to say. >> they are sponse was slow and confused and inconsistent and part of a bigger picture of the fact that the obama foreign policy is unraveling before our eyes . >> steve: what is happening right now in the middle east is the ugly fruits of the bum pumforeign policy. 20,000 killed and iran on the brink of having a atom bomb and russia thumb their nose . >> eric: the interview last night with karzai. terrorist attacks have increased maybe because of a preplanned exit the attitude he had. he's mad at the u.s. . we have lost 2000 lives. a trillion dollars, and they are mad. seriously? and then insider atax've -- attacks and the and al-qaida are working together to infiltrate the afghany police to attack us inside. >> gretchen: there were another two deaths over the weekend. they are not even going on patrol because the danger is too high. there is a lot of chaos. even though you listen to the president. he stix to his greatest achieve
obama. the left has a paul ryan video. it's a whole lot of fun. i'm sure you'll love it. >>> first here's bill karins. he's got a check on the forecast. bill. >> morning, joe. maybe you noticed yourself down in d.c., too, the fog, a big issue this morning up and down the big cities from new york city all the way down through philadelphia, baltimore and d.c. give yourself some extra time. i'm sure we're going to have airport delays as the airports get going this morning. some people are saying it's the worst fog they've seen in a long time throughout this region. it will lift by 9:00 or 10:00 a.m. so the heart of it is right now. we will see a few showers during the day but not like yesterday where it really was a rainout in a few spots. temperatures will be very warm and humid. we are going to see a chance of showers in new york city as we go through thursday and then again over the weekend. it's over the weekend that the temperatures drop on the east coast including washington, d.c., and boston with highs in the 50s and 60s. right now all that cool air is located in montana. i'm showin
class that has been buried -- in his words, buried, the last four years. paul ryan at a campaign event in iowa just a few moments ago seized on those comments and said vice president biden said that the middle class has been buried. we agree. he goes onto say that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states, wolf. i have a strg sense this will be brought up at tomorrow night's debate, wolf. >> we'll have a lot more on what joe biden has just said and the very tough reaction coming in from the romney campaign. gloria borger is standing by on that front. both of these campaigns are bringing major surrogates to denver to appear in the so-called spin room after the debate tomorrow night. what are you learning about the romney campaign's people who are coming in? >> reporter: wolf, it's probably no surprise rob portman, mitt romney's chief sparring partner playing barack obama in the debate, he'll be in the spin room. but we've also learned that marco rubio, the rising star, senator from florida who had a prominent role at the republican con
the tax hikes -- mitt romney and paul ryan that we need to stop all the tax hikes. the president's health-care law is driving up costs. it is making it harder for small possesses to expand and hire -- businesses to expand and hire. let's rearepeal obamacare and replace it with common sense reforms that protect american access to care they need from the doctor they choose at a lower cost. we need to look at rainy and all the excess of red tape that is making it harder to work and do business. these ideas are in my job plan. republicans have common-sense proposals to remove these. president obama puts governments first. he wants to raise taxes on small businesses. he wants to keep our energy races under lock and key including the keystone xl pipeline. he wants more spending that will put us in debt to china. more of the same. where are the jobs that no wonder jobs are fleeing overseas. let's bring those jobs home, back to america, back to local businesses. there is one more thing i tell people. i tell them i have made restoring the american dream my life work. without it i would not be wher
now. call the number on your screen now! >>> mitt romney's running mate paul ryan hits the sunday talk shows today and acknowledged what he described as campaign missteps. he talked about the presidential race's final 37 days with two cnn contributors l.z. granderson who is also a senior wrir for espn and anna navarre row, a republican strategist, and i asked anna if paul ryan's remarks are part of a deliberate strate strategy. >> look, i don't know if it's a smart strategy, but i know it's a realistic strategy. obviously they're down in the polls. they've got to do some retweaking. i think he's being humble. i think he's being realistic. he's admitting there's been some mistakes made. rid million roy has admitted he didn't do the mostar tick lot expression when he was speaking about that 47%. so i think it is a good thing. they do need to eat a little humble pie and admit that things are not all rosy. >> peggy noonan has said this is sort of a hinge, this is a turning point, it has the potential to alter the dynamic of the election. l.z., do you see the debate as that crucial this fir
paul ryan said on fox yesterday. listen to this. >> president obama's a very -- he's a very gifted speaker. the man's been on the national stage for many years. he's an experienced debater. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> what i love about this particular stage of proceedings, for the first debate, is the way you're both prepared to tell such ghastly lies about each other. paul ryan finally saying all the things about what a great speaker president obama is, how hopeless mitt romney is. the pair of you are playing the same game, lower expectations so far, they just have to breathe to be victorious. >> i think that there's no question that the expectation game is real. everyone plays it. having been involved in a number of presidential debates in the past, there's a certain give and take running up to it. i wouldn't be surprised tomorrow or wednesday, somebody makes a crazy charge or someone in a campaign will do something to try to refocus the run-up to the debate. but i think the fact is the american people see through
and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the refere issue. alren ngt the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, thst moment of all time in ovp es tween the green bay packers and politics is still this moment. >> there are 30 teams, but only one packer organization, and that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are on 187 days before traing camp. and 360 days before we go back to miami! wheas e pas e america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of theeople of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thomps, governor of the great stofco, ereby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer day in honor of all of you, the fans! congratulations. thank you. >> tommy thompson, from the great state of wiscons -- declaring packers day. he was the g
" is reporting that aides to romney say the republican candidate and running mate paul ryan will be campaigning together more often in the coming weeks, according to the report. the move underscores concerns that mr. romney is not generating enough excitement on his own and needs mr. ryan to fire up supporters that may have been evident during a campaign stop yesterday outside dayton. >> wow! that's quite a guy, isn't it? paul ryan! isn't that something? wait a second. wait a second. romney, ryan! romney, ryan! romney, ryan! there we go. all right. that's great. thank you. >> oh. sweet jesus. >> i'm sorry. i'm sorry. i shouldn't be so hard on you. i shouldn't bring up newt gingrich. >> it's just irrelevant. >> it doesn't even matter. >> it's irrelevant. what do the catholics say? holy mary mother of god? >> it's not going to work. >> pray for our sinners in thy hour of peace. >> it's not going to work. it's too late for that. >> it seems to me -- except what would happen, it's the end of "godfather 2," i'm fredo on the back of the boat about to get it in the back of my head. >> how do you fix t
more wildly. >> paul ryan was his wild swing. so you have never going to see that with president romney. you didn't see it with a governor romney. and there are reasons to be grateful for that too. so i think that's where the expectations are. >> cenk: all right. fascinating. michael shure thank you, man. romney going wild -- i shouldn't talk about that. [ laughter ] >> cenk: any ways, when we come back, we have a very serious story, unfortunately. fox news wound up showing basically a suicide on the air. how in the world did they screw this up? >> if it were up to me we would stay with this. but nothing is up to me. you wait until the end of this thing and thaw -- get off. get off. >> cenk: and later roseanne barr joins us. >> i'm using it as a stepping tone. >> cenk: oh, really. ♪ like you. >>now that's politically direct. fruit just got cooler. fruit on one side, cool on the other. new ice breakers duo. a fruity, cool way to break the ice. ttv ♪ s trick, which is follow car chases. they got a little carried away with it today. let me show you a snipit of t
's debate. there is a tall hall at the clinton county courthouse where paul ryan will appear in burlington. ann romney will appear in colorado in a little while. vice-president biden will take the stage at an event surely in charlotte. it's the first of his two plans stops in north carolina today. michelle obama has a speaking appearance in cincinnati. early voting started in ohio this morning. more shots fired in maryland. protesters urging people to vote against question 7 on the november ballot. some of the protesters may have had an ulterior motive. brianne carter has the story from upper marlborough. >> with their signs and shirts, dozen people showed up outside the prince george's county administration building to protest maryland ballot question 7. it would greenlight the plan for a casino in prince george county. >> they want the money to be used for schools, they would never applied to the bills. >> there's an ad on craigslist that raises questions about whether participants came to oppose the casino or because they thought they were getting paid. it says people would get $25 to $
that president obama gave david letterman than anything in paul ryan's speech which as we saw led to the this explosion of fact-checking. bill: don't all politicians kind of take the truth and bend it a little bit, stretch it out for their own advantage? >> yes. that is an understatement. they do it all the time. everybody on all sides does it. and i think, you know, to a certain extent the romney campaign has to be a little careful not caught up in just being fact checkers, but at the same time calling the president out on his excesses. when he is say things about governor romney that aren't true. bill: rove takes it a step further because he writes about serial dishonesty. that is the phrase he uses in his piece. how do you think romney has responded to date? >> i think they have done a pretty good job. i think the campaign found that delicate balance calling president on things he said that might be exaggerating or misleading governor romney's record but not obsessing about it. i think particularly in the upcoming debates, governor romney himself, it is important that he call t
before making final preparations, and meanwhile paul ryan will campaign in iowa >>> i am poppy harlow. the september jobs report will be key for the market, and also key in the race for the white house. also head, we will get a look at september auto sales data as well as the latest look at construction spending. we will show if those indicate or show any signs of improvement like we have been seeing in the housing market. and shedding more light on the central bank's decision to try to further stimulate the u.s. economy, we will track that and all the business news on cnn money. >>> and we have a big showbiz countdown this week of the best presidential impersonations ever. tune in and see if your favorites make the cut. >>> high school students thought they were funny nominating a girl to the homecoming court as a joke, but she got the last laugh. fantastic. phenomenal. regenerist. heaven on your palate." in other heavenly news, all our yoplait light flavors are now 90 calories each. and cue the angels. what? ok. we don't have angels. yoplait. it is so good. oh, hey alex. just pickin
's final two debates. i asked anna if paul ryan's remarks are part of the deliberate strategy. >> i don't know if it's a smart strategy, but i know it's a realistic strategy. obviously they are down in the polls and they have to do retweaking. i think he is being humble and realistic, and he's admitting there have been mistakes made, and so i think it's a good thing. they do need to eat a little humble pie and admit that things are not all rosy. >> peggy said it was crucial. do you see the debate is crucial? >> the first debate is the only debate that matters at this point. if romney cannot hit obama with what he has to say in the first -- these have not been gaffes by mitt romney. this is mitt romney. this is not the first time he talked about not caring about people less fortunate than him. he said he was not concerned about the very poor. this is not like a misstep. it's a consistent theme with him and it's up to the voters to see if they agree with him. it's not gaffes, it's him. >> how does mitt romney have to appear. does he have to be aggressive? what is the right tone? when we s
is the right place to do it. after the paul ryan speech, you have the obama campaign referring to the lies in paul ryan's speech and that's echoed by president obama's allies in the media. when you don't have the romney campaign's response robustly. for example, president obama has been running ads claiming that mitt romney's going to race taxes on the middle class. now, mitt romney has never made that claim. this is coming from a report making all kinds of arguments. and he's made all kinds of a assumptions that the romney campaign has rejected. also puts harvey rosen, you can also generate enough growth to avoid a middle class tax increase. there are a loft credible folks saying something else. it's a fact he's going to raise middle class tax. >> the obama campaign, david plouffe is a chris christie of the campaign saying their campaign is built on a tripod of lies and the president has said sometimes they just make things up. >> last i checked, isn't this called politics? you have lying all the time in politics. it is our responsibility to call folks out on it. on my tv 1 show, i have a
releases on that comment. paul ryan reacted to it. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, quote, buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging by electing mitt romney the next president of the united states. >> biden clarified his remarks saying, quote, the middle class was buried by policies that romney and ryan supported. the romney campaign tries to make the stick calling a conference call and then holding a press conference in denver this morning. no doubt we'll hear more about the comments tonight from romney as he tries to draw attention away from his own 47% remark. there is a quick look at tonight's format. there are no opening statements. the president will answer the opening questions. the debate will be divided into six 15-minute segments. the president and romney will each get two minutes to answer an initial question in each topic area but then timing will be left to the moderator's discretion. since obama won a coin toss he won the choice and romney got the choice of if he wants the first or second closing state
of the financial crisis that began under the bush administration, paul ryan seized on the remarks as an admission of failure. this is deadly earnest. how they can justify, how can they justify raising taxes on the middle class? the middle-class has been buried last four years. how, in lord's name, can they justify raising taxes? >> vice-president biden today said that the middle-class over the last of we or years has been buried. we agree. that means we need to stop digging, which means we have to collect mitt romney as president of the united states. >> meanwhile, paul ryan has appeared in videos online. in a speech delivered last november, he said 30% of americans want to live off the government. today, 70% of americans get more benefit from the federal government and a payback in taxes. you could argue we are already passed a tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows we are a center-right country. 70% of americans won the american dream. only 30% want the welfare state. what that tells us is, at least half of those people currently in that category are
>> can mitt romney and paul ryan count on your support this november election? excellent. and, would you be interested in voting early this election? >> reporter: karen is credited with making the iowa gops 1 millionth voter call this cycle. >> issues that matter to iowa. >> reporter: she's doing her part now as republicans play early voting catch. >> you know, we're working hard here, we're rolling up our sleeves and putting our boots on and we're going at it. so, we still have time. >> reporter: john king, cnn, iowa city, iowa. >>> and lots more ahead as "cnn newsroom" continues with fredricka whitfield. >> i can't believe it's under 40 days under election day. it went by like this, after all. >> i'm sure a lot of people are happy a about this. >> it's true, too. we'll elaborate on that later, too. good to see you, appreciate it. >>> for now, we'll begin with new information on an investigation into a decade's old mystery, the disappearance of former teamster's boss jimmy hoffa. crews digging under a michigan shed for his possible remains say they did not find any bones, but
congressman paul ryan frustrated >> did you guys watch that packer game last night? i mean, give me a break. it is time to get the real refs. you know what? it reminds me of president obama and the economy. if you can't get it right, it's time to get out. >> gretchen: league officials did say the seahawks wide receiver should have been called for offensive pass interference before the catch. >> brian: he pushed off. >> gretchen: mitt romney is campaigning in the state of ohio. he'll get a boost from jack nicholas at a reallily. -- rally. he's hoping to get a bounce from president olympic? >> if there is one thing we've learned in this election season, by the way, it is that a few words from bill clinton can do a man a lot of good. [ laughter ] >> gretchen: romney speak yesterday at clinton's annual global conference. what he's alluding to is that over the last six months or so, bill clinton disagreed with president obama's main policies on the economy and taxes, and that could be seen as a help to mr. romney. >> brian: mitt romney is apparent and this is the story about being a favorite. do
as has paul ryan and certainly the vast majority of republicans in the house. which is a commitment not to raise overall taxes. romney's committed to cutting all tax rates at least 20%. ryan and the house republicans want to go to a top rate of 25% corporate and individual. romney's made it clear. any changes are in the context of keeping overall taxes from going up and making sure the middle class doesn't get hit request higher taxes. it's not a tax increase, he's made that clear. >> mr. secretary, a lot of discussion about whether or not the wealthy or the middle class families in america benefit more from any limit of deductions. >> well, a limit of deductions actually would hurt the wealthy to the extent that we're talking about a deduction that the wealthy take in very, very large amounts. a limit on those deductions makes some sense in terms of a progressive tax system. >> what do you think the plan for the president will be tonight? terms of tax reform, mr. reich? >> the president has said that he wants the so-called buffett rule that is a minimum tax particularly in regard t
state of new hampshire. >> hey, fred. as running mate paul ryan makes the rounds on the campaign trail both here in new hampshire and ohio, his boss mitt romney is hunkering down, getting ready for the debate on wednesday, the first presidential showdown between him and president barack obama. romney spending a lot of this weekend in debate preparation. the same thing for the president. he's off the campaign trail today, tomorrow he does go out to nevada, but he's spending a lot of this weekend, we believe, behind closed doors getting ready. meanwhile, both campaigns are playing the expectations game, trying to lower the bar for their candidates. even the candidates themselves are doing it. take a listen to mitt romney recently on the campaign trail. >> he's president of the united states, he's a very effective speaker. >> he's a very eloquent speaker, and so i'm sure in the debates, as last time in his debates with senator mccain, he'll be very eloquent. >> it's not only mitt romney and his campaign playing the game. so is the obama campaign. >> what history tells us, that chall
. >> boat full of billy zanes. >> rying to get on the louistania. >> stephanie: paul ryan -- help! help me! busy trying to find more road flares. >> floating doors. >> stephanie: road flare mary, i need another one. yes. he said on fox news yesterday it would take me to go through all of the math. [ cuckoo clock chimes ] in the budget plan. >> it is too complicated. you wouldn't understand. >> stephanie: really? okay. all right. here he is. >> haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> i i i i i -- >> when fox news flusters the republican wow. you know you're in trouble. >> stephanie: you're running to be leader of the free world. >> he's the budget munster. you're right. >> stephanie: we're too stupid. i would have been like i have nothing -- >> you wouldn't understand. >> stephanie: i got nothing but time. we just blew up the c and the d block. go! >> you and your c and d block. >> stephanie: fancy tv talk. >> sure. that's what th
? >> romney spent the night in gender, but tomorrow we fly to virginia. he will meet up with paul ryan and have a rally in virginia on thursday night and then swing through florida before returning to virginia, or he is expected to make a foreign policy speech on monday. >> this is certainly -- this is the first social media debate. i am wondering about -- how your yahoo will be involved, live streaming, lots of ways to comment. ways people can comment as it is happening, share clips, create mash-ups of what is going on tonight. how are the campaign's harnessing this, or is it too early, and they will have to see how it plays out? >> both campaigns to put a lot of effort into social media this time. obvious lot -- the obama campaign has a lot of history in 2008. so much of their effort to turn out voters was on-line, but the romney campaign is doing a lot tonight as well. they have their entire response team on twitter responding to what happens in the debate. not just reporters, but average people can follow along as well. i think they are both really trying to organize, get people ex
be doing after they elected paul ryan as the vice-president nominee, because he's given us a plan-- >> wait a second, you you think they should get out there and hey, you 47% i'm going to make you pay taxes. >> it's not a question i'm going to make you pay tax. i'm going to ask you to have some skin in the game. the paul ryan plan does exactly that. >> yes, i know, i know, but-- >> you've got to get to the central question here, mattie, which is, can you get elected telling 47% of the people, you're going to pay tax, you kent get elected, you can't do that. >> i could argue you can if you say it in a way that paul ryan and presidential nominee mitt romney should be doing talking about the plan that decreases the overall tax burden for americans in general. it's not just about the small minority or majority of the people who aren't paying some income tax, they're talking about the problems they have right now that doesn't have people concerned about their tax income liability because they don't have one. remember, too, this is just on the federal income tax side. we do have a lot of the peop
was able to explain that in a way that paul ryan or, you know, a lot of other conservatives could have explained it in two or three seconds. yes, i did that in massachusetts, but let me tell you something. what works in massachusetts doesn't work in michigan, doesn't work in mississippi, doesn't work in minnesota. we've got 50 different states, and let's have experimentation. let's have competition. let's have legislative laboratories and see what suits each state's residents the best. he missed that. he could have explained that away in january in iowa and could have been talking about this bill for the past eight, nine months in an excited, positive way. another thing, steve ratner, i want to go to you on this specifically because you talked -- yesterday we talked to governor ed rendell who said that he was so impressed with mitt romney when he went up to massachusetts. and mitt romney was explaining to him all the details of this health care plan and all the great things that it did for the residents, for the people of massachusetts. and he sat there going man, this guy is so impres
romney, paul ryan, we're all pro union all of a sudden. >> everybody's in favor of the union. >> everybody's in favor of the union. >> don't you think that roger goodell and the owners and everyone else at this point, you know, have to -- have to cave in and do something? >> sure. >> about the replacement refs before we go through another weekend like that? >> i don't know if they can get them in even if they negotiated a settlement today. i don't know if the regular nfl refs could get back for this weekend. i think they've got to make a deal and they can get some concessions i'm sure from the union but they've got to make a deal quickly and roger goodell is really in the hot seat and this is a time when he has to lead the owners, not follow the owners. >> this is a game that's already been in some fire for injuries to players, for roughness, things like that. they don't need another problem. they better settle. >> i agree with vin. >> talking to the players rep in a moment coming up. and thanks to both of you and if you have nothing to do this weekend we may put you on the f
't like paul ryan. so you look at all the recent polls, you have four of them. you have reuters, gallup, bloomberg and fox show the president leading. which doesn't mitt romney embrace these polls and acknowledge them? say, this is how it is right now. we're going to change them? >> i think internally they probably are doing a lot of that and trying to figure out how they can shift the narrative, but i think that article is exactly right. yes, mitt romney has been a poor candidate. yes, his comments about the 47% have been truly devastating to this race. i think his problems go way back. they do go to a self-delusion the gop has about the president. that he's awful and a toaster oven could beat him in an election. it's not true. the american people like the president. mitt romney was forced to move so far to the right in the gop primary it's hard to come back to a sensible, mainstream view and his embrace of paul ryan on the ticket just made that that much harder. >> if you're in the wilderness for years and you're not winning and we have 8% unemployment and we should win this thing and
: the gop sent its first early vote mailing just this week. >> can mitt romney and paul ryan count on your support this november election? excellent. and would you be interested in voting early this election? >> reporter: karen smooth is credited with making the iowa gop's 1 millionth voter call this cycle. >> i'm calling about issues that matter to iowa. >> reporter: she's doing her part now as republicans play early voting catch-up. >> we're working hard here. we're rolling up our sleeves and putting our boots on and we're going at it. so we still have time. >> reporter: john king, cnn, iowa city, iowa. >>> and don't forget, catchhe first presidential debate, denver, colorado, romney versus obama, next wednesday, 8:00 p.m. right here on cnn. >>> all right, it is time the world draws a clear red line, a strong warning from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu about iran. and at first elected to homeming court only to find out it was an evil prank. how one teen is getting back at the bullies. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we'v
. and then i think there is a second component and that is that he selected as his running mate paul ryan. paul ryan, someone who is passionate about deconstructing comments of the 47%. >> has romney's campaign done a good job of responding to the criticism? >> he first comes out and says i stand by it basically. number one, that's bad. but then as he's tried to move away from it, he's ended up stumbling all over the place. the other day he was talking about showing empathy by doing health care reform in massachusetts, which simply reinforced that if that's empathy, then barack obama -- >> do you think the president used 47% to box him in? >> i think so but he's got to be careful. obama doesn't want 47%, he wants 51, 52, 53. >> john nichols, great to have you with us. >> the first day or two it was like the waco with the david koresh situation where they're trying to smoke him out. >> todd akin's own campaign is comparing him to a cult leader. >> this is somebody who makes michelm michele bachmann look like a hippie. brochures, posters copies of my acceptance speech. great! it's always good to
in their whole lives than they did at that convention. >> not surprisingly, paul ryan is also focussing on swing states. he made stops in new hampshire and ohio yesterday. in the buckeye state he talked about challengers to gun rights. >> the next president is going to make a lot of judgments. the next president will appoint a lot of different judges, and these are lifetime appointments. if you want to make sure that judges respect our second amendment rights, you immediate a president who respects those rights as well. mitt romney and i are going to respect the second amendment because it's our individual right to keep and bare arms. >> paul ryan spends the day today attending fundraisers in connecticut. although the u.s. supreme court isn't set to look at any gun rights challenges, it is going to hear several high-profile and controversial cases. tomorrow morning the justices are kicking off the new term. it always happens the first monday in october. here's joe johns with more. >> reporter: right after the supreme court's health care decision in june chief justice john roberts joked to collea
, we're hearing paul ryan and mitt romney will reunite essentially and campaign in virginia. president obama will be in denver and madison, wisconsin, and joe biden will be in iowa. obviously, a lot going on in the final -- and the final preparations for the debate and just right after. >> yeah, and, you know, you talk about the zingers which is so interesting. clearly, each candidate wants to at least make his mark and obviously say something memorable for all the voters there. romney running with paul ryan, he was on the sunday talk shows today. we haven't heard much out of vice president biden lately. we know you've been traveling with him. when he's on the record he says a lot of interesting things. i guess he says a lot of things when he's off the record with you guys. >> a lot of things we won't talk about right now. as you just said, i have been traveling extensively with the vice president, but publicly he's out with these new attack lines against his republican opponent basically saying one of the most memorable of late is the romney plan will basically increase the tacks on s
. here's running mate paul ryan just yesterday on fox news. >> there's been a traditional democrat and republican consensus lowering tax rates by broadening the tax base works. and you can -- >> i have to -- you haven't given me the math. >> well, i don't have -- it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> chris wallace kept trying but came away empty-handed. he's not the only one. take a look. >> which of the deductions are you going to be willing to eliminate? which of the tax credits are you going to -- when are you going to be able to tell us that? >> we'll go through that process with congress. >> give me an example of a loophole that you will close. >> i can tell you that people at the high end, high income taxpayers, are going to have fewer deductions and exemptions. >> mitt romney and i based on our experience think the best way to do this is to show the framework, show the outlines of these plans and then to work with congress to do this. >> that's something congress and i will have to work out together. >> the devil's in the details, though. what are we ta
, but they don't seem to be taking-- seniors don't seem to be taking very well what mitt romney and paul ryan want to do about it. >> well, the first-- the first bit of good news is that mitt romney and paul ryan are not going to change medicare for those seniors. they're going to change medicare for folks like me, who just turned 50, and younger, who are going to need to know that if you want to have any semblance of medicare, you're going to have to make some changes to it. here's the dirty little secret, bob-- the president of the united states knows that, too, but he's not talkin talking abo. he's not being honest with the american people about it. in the end, i think the american people, if we lay out our vision well, will reward us for tell truth. and the president right now is avoiding the truth the way he's avoided so many hard truths over the last four years. >> schieffer: governor, if mitt romney does not win, are you going to run for president in 2016? >> mitt romney's gonna win, so it's a question that-- know, i don't need to address. i hope in 2016 to be work hard for mitt romney
. >> and paul ryan played his own version. >> president obama is a gifted speaker. he's been on the national stage for many years. he's done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> but if all candidates are trying to lower expectations, maybe chris christie missed that memo. >> governor romney's going to lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. and i think that's when you're going to see this race really start to tighten and move in governor romney's direction. come thursday morning, the entire narrative of this race is going to change. >> i want to bring in dana milbank and matt welsh. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> i suppose we shouldn't be surprised this race to lower expectations. give us your take on the expectations for this debate. >> romney needs something to happen for him. he's had a bad couple of weeks. ever since the 47% comment which i think that be difficult for him. what he needs to do is kind of what obama did in 2008. when you look at when things started
of corrupting paul ryan and then embracing the ayn rand approach to economics which is just really far away from the political center, the whole percent thing that cannot romney which should be read this to some extent of being delightfully honest for today's gop is coming from in terms of their attitude towards economic and feel policy. it shouldn't have been an election that is a need for them either they haven't maximized that opportunity that is my take on what's going on and i hope you're going to check out the report and look typical maps and charts. there will be a short quiz later we want to bring up this great panel to discuss all these issues in a much more excruciating details. why don't you all come up here and get started. you want to be here -- that's fine. and i will be here. >> let me introduce the panel. senior vice president of greenburg research, one of my favorite favorite pollsters not only does she go out there and take the pulse of the nation but she also has an interest to say about it and digs beneath the surface of the data. to my right is my very favorite right-wing wh
will be joined by mitt romney's running mate paul ryan. >> janice dean has more on the storms in the plains. >> yes, 5:00, do you know where your umbrella is? in the midatlantic and transmittal u.s.. you can see the. there is a frontal boundary draped back through the ohio valley. and north of that cooler and dryer air and south of that humid area. 45 in minneapolis and 51 in denver and 51 in provo. and you can see thal zone in the midatlantic and ohio valley and central plains. we could see severe weather in texas and oklahoma up toward colorado. severe weather threat and damaging winds and isolated tornados and not looking for a severe weather outbreak. your travel forecast looking pretty good. we'll watch out for showers and showers and thunderstorms. back to you. >> tranquil. good word this morning. bill orilele would be proud. >> and now stories you can bank on. when it comes to income growth. dennis joins us. what is it all about. >> personal income in republican red states up more than in the democratic blue states in the past five years. income in 23 red states up 4.6 percent since
worlds! >> reporter: a week ago when republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan spoke about medicare to the american association of retired persons in new orleans, he got an earful. >> the law turned medicare boo into a piggy bank for obamacare! (boos) >> reporter: that frosty reaction is borne out in new polling, both by cbs news and others which found more people thought the president would do a better job handling medicare than governor romney. the "washington post" and kaiser foundation surveyed voters in virginia, ohio, and florida. in those states that found that sajorities of 56%, 59%, and 65% support maintaining medicare's current system of benefits. in flagler beach, florida, walt azie has some serious questions for romney. >> i think romney will turn the economy around but it's the other issues that we don't know about. >> reporter: like what? >> like the medicare, health care issues. >> reporter: in haymarket, virginia, life-long republican dan stapleton echoes fears about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i think they want to change ot so dramatically that we won't reco
a barn burner now for the next 33 days." >> reporter: today on fox news, his running mate paul ryan admitted the campaign has had some challenges. >> first of all, 47%, mitt acknowledges himself that was an inarticulate way of describing how we are worried in a stagnate obama economy more people are dependent on government. >> despite being down in most polls ryan said the gop ticket will eventually win over voters who are frustrated by a stagnant economy. >> given that we are going to win this. >> reporter: and romney has a lot to gain from a debate says cathleen hall jameison. >> the challenger has the opportunity to establish he is competent to stand up and hold his own against the president of the united states. a challenger who accomplishes that, in effect, wins the first debate. >> reporter: romney has been studying for the debates since june, the last month he has even been traveling with his obama stand-in, ohio senator rob portman who has joined him on his plane and campaign bus. the obama campaign contends romney has prepared more than any candidate in recent history. >> h
's debate is a must-win for romney, his running mate paul ryan says this will not be a defining moment. >> i don't think one event will make-or-break this campaign. >> reporter: apparently not everyone got the memo to down play expectations. >> thursday morning you'll all be scratching your heads and say wow we have a barn burner now. >> reporter: the debate will center on domestic issues including the economy but right now romney is focused on foreign policy and has been slamming the president over his handling of the events in the middle east. in an op-ed in the "wall street journal" romney said the president showed weakness in the middle east. he said president obama heightened the prospect of conflict and instability. he doesn't understand an american policy that lacks resolve can provoke aggression and encourage disorder. white house aides says the president is looking forward to debating foreign policy with mitt romney. >> this president promised two things in 2008. he ended the iraq war. he did. he will focus on bin laden and bring him to justice. >> reporter: romney is said to be pla
thursday morning. >> reporter: contrast that with romney's running mate paul ryan who was on another show at all the same time giving the president the edge. >> he is an experienced debater and has done these kinds of debates before. this is mitt's first time on this kind of a stage. >> reporter: a new "washington post" abc poll finds most vote expect the president to win the first face-off. meanwhile, there's already spin on how the media will cover the results. top obama strategist david plouffe said it will be pro-romney. ryan told fox news bias is already baked in. >> i think it goes without saying that there's definitely a media bias. i'm used to media bias. we expect media bias going into this. >> wow. >> reporter: some in the romney campaign are even questioning a slew of recent polls that show the president leading in crucial swing states like ohio. romney's ohio state director issued a memo saying that it is amazing what happens when you stop over-sampling democrats and fine a race in ohio that's as tight as a tick. rhode island an told one interview he prefers interviews with lo
on fox news, his running mate paul ryan admitted the campaign has had some challenges. >> first of all, 47%, mitt acknowledges himself that was an inarticulate way of describing how we are worried in that stag nato bama economy more people are dependent on government. >> despite being down in most polls ryan said the gop ticket will eventually win over voters who are frustrated by a stagnant economy. >> given that we are going to win this. >> reporter: and romney has a lot to gain from a debate says cathleen hall jameison. >> the challenger has the opportunity to establish he is competent to stand up and hold his own against the president of the united states. a challenger who accomplishes that, in effect, wins the first debate. >> reporter: romney las been studying for the debates since june, the last month he has even been traveling with his obama stand-in, ohio senator rob portman who has joined him on his plane and campaign bus. the obama campaign contends romney has prepared more than any candidate in recent history. >> he's been a good debater in the past. he's very prepared. he'
before you get into office. on the other side we all know paul ryan can do the math and he can spend the whole 90 minutes talking about -- >> of course paul ryan isn't the candidate for president. >> paul ryan will get his chance. >> if you endorsed budget, please explain to us how that works. >> well, at least there's a budget. >> he was for and then against it. >> so how should romney answer? our debate all this week has been your argument is he should avoid substance at all costs. so how should romney answer her question then? >> the good news is that the rules don't allow him to speak more than a few seconds. >> actually, two minutes i think. >> so move on to the next issue, the next issue. we're looking for details. you are not going to get details tonight. >> let's be clear, there's 15-minute segments. they have two minutes to respond to the question and then jim lehrer's going to narrate the back and forth. there should be enough time. >> one thing i want to say though is that this is going to be for a bunch of young americans their first chance to vote. a lot of the young ame
.getting annoyed. nothing you can do. >> tough spot for everyone. >> paul ryan was gunning for support in ohio, literally. you know -- >> battleground state. >> avid outdoorsman. a picture of him buying camo gear. took ten minutes off the trail, buying camo gear for his 10 year owed daughter. of course, you know, it created a little bit of a backlash from the other side. so to speak. some of the supporters tweeted this photo and photos like this, supporting, not his daughter. supporting the right to bear arms. children clearly, you know -- clearly bearing arms. >> talk amongst yourselves. check out the picture, real o fake? check out the picture, real o fake? giant stingray in the cayman hi, i'm jon secada. did you know that chroronic hepatitis c affects approxately one million hispanic americans? each story is different, but for at least 20 years my father never said how sick he was getti. he stayed silent, never talked over the options with his doctor. if he had, maybe i'd be visiting hihim at home, instead of here. if you still think there's strength in silence, think again. talk to your do
woody woodpecker, g.o.p. vice presidential nominee paul ryan taking a pot shot at president obama over the controversial call in the game last night. the seattle seahawks were robbed of a win after replacement refs couldn't tell the difference between a touchdown an interception. >> eric: actually, the packers were robbed of the win. >> bob: packers were robbed of the win. it didn't watch the game. the n.f.l. -- thank you very much, whoever wrote that. thank you. i have enough trouble trying to say i graduate graduated grah school. the packers. n.f.l. issued a statement. watch this. the quarterback goesp up to get the ball, eight seconds left to go. watch. this we'll see it in slow motion. this is so playtant. offensive pass interference. never see one in all the time i played the game. watch this. pushes him out of the way. they both come down with the ball. the issue is not who had the ball. offensive player has the right over the defense. they're both holding it down. but the blatant -- you two are really interested. >> greg: can i tell you something interesting? >> bob: no. not unt
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candidate paul ryan is in new hampshire. this is not a live picture, but him at the event from this morning. despite the small size, new hampshire has become a key battle ground state. ryan was there just last week. the latest polls show the president ahead of mitt romney in nine battle ground states. mr. obama's biggest leads are in ohio, new hampshire, and iowa. of course, this could change in the weeks to come. the tightest races at this point are nevada and north carolina. the national average of those polled has president obama with a 49.5%, the potential vote 44% for romney. >>>in this weekend's presidential address president obama is calling on congress to help homeowners. >> last week mortgage rates were at historic lows. but instead of helping more and more hard working families take advantage of those rates. congress was away on break. instead of worrying about you they had already gone home to worry about their campaigns. >> the president says congress has yet to act on legislation he sent them in february that would save homeowners about $3000 a year on their mortgages. >>> the
paul ryan is in new hampshire and ohio today and vice president joe biden is wrapping up a two-day swing through florida right now. right now, live pictures. he is holding a rally there and talking to supporters in ft. myers. >>> all right, now to a controversy over the legitimacy of voter registrations in florida. an election official in palm beach county tells cnn as many as 106 voter registration applications may be fraudulent containing false information and fake signatures. the applications were turned in by a consulting firm hired by the republican national committee to register voters. the rnc says it has cut ties with that firm. >>> president obama and mitt romney facing american voters who are trying to weigh their choices this wednesday, the first presidential debate, october 3rd. watch it live at 7:00 eastern time right here on cnn and on cnn.com. >>> all right, a group of high school cheerleaders in texas take their fight on the sidelines to the courtroom after being told not to use bible verses verses for games. our guys are standing by for a spirited debate. richa
it less expensive. >> romney and his running mate paul ryan propose to cap malpractice insurance, cut medicate by $810 million over the next ten years, give states more control over your head indicate funds, overall medicare, the overall? people now under than 55, when they reach retirement, they can have a voucher to purchase private insurance. >> this is to guarantee that seniors can always afford medicare coverage no exceptio. s >> romney doesn't want to take out all of the law's provisions. >> we have to make sure that people who have prekpigsing conditions are able to get insured and folks that get sick don't get dropped by their insurance company. >> douglas iken who is the president of the insurance -- >> both sides agree that the mountainous medicare needs to be capped, they just don't agree how to get there. what romney and ryan say they're going to give the money to seniors so they can shop and if they don't like the choice, they can go to another choice and that will meet the cap. >> jonathan supports the law and writes about health care for the me republi lirepublic. >> ba
" narrative. sunday paul ryan said it's not in the least bit true that cutting the tax rate by 20% would cut $20 trillion in five years. >> how much does it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> we'll get to the -- >> the cut in tax rates is lower, by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. lowering the tax rates by broadening the tax rates -- >> let me --. i -- >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the time. it would take me too long go through all of the math. >> that's a quote you're going to hear a lot, i guess from the obama campaign and the president himself. meanwhile the president who's known for being a bit long-winded and can have an hour-long news conference with only eight questions is working to sharpen his responses. quote, we eh had a hard time getting every point across within the time limit. you're trying to make a case to the people, so you have to make sure your answers connect with people. he got some advice from howard dean. >> the president's got to avoid being irritable. hi's got to roll with the punches. mitt is going to be out there, aggress
and congressman paul ryan talking about the upcoming debate. just down the road in denver on wednesday. let's talk about that and some of the issues on the table. bring in the panel from washington. rick klein, senior washington editor for abc news. a.b. stoddard, associate editor of the hill. syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. charles, you heard the back and forth on the sunday shows. what about the setup to this debate? what needs to happen and what is being talked about? >> it looks ridiculous. each side is pretending that the other can't even speak english. obviously, i don't think it will have any effect. romney did do rather well in his debate. he got better. he's done a lot of them, but people are saying well, obama hand debated in all this time. obama is really good. he did come out of nowhere. he beat the clinton machine. he did it in part in his debate, oratory. he will be strong. his one weak point is he is thin skinned. you o the press conference. if romney can manage to get under his skin in some way, that happened in 2008. one or two of the clinton debates. i think it could pu
percent of people in america who do not pay income taxes. paul ryan was on the trail today in iowa and turned it from a defensive problem for the romney campaign into the advance of the way they will frail the race in terms of the stagnation economy that they accuse president obama of overseeing and the prosperity economy they are promising. >> let's help them get jobs so they can get a paycheck so they are good taxpayers. (applause) this is the point that we have been trying to make. sometimes the point doesn't get made the right way. we don't want a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. we have added 15 million people to the food stamp roles in four years. largely there is no opportunity or economic growth. >>carl: that is the argument mitt romney hopes to make tomorrow night standing face to face with president obama. there has been mock debating today for mitt romney and stepped out if a quick snack and other than that it will be closed doors until the walk through tomorrow afternoon. >>trace: what about the 47 percent controversy. does governor romney have an answer do tha
for the contrast we're going to hear tomorrow. >> campaigning in iowa, running mate paul ryan asked about the confession that 47% who don't pay income taxes think government owes them. >> get them a job so they're good taxpayers. >> we don't want a stagnant economy that fosters dependency. we added 50 million people to food stamp rolls in the last four years because there is no opportunity, no economic growth. >> in the debate, romney is sure to be asked what is now shorthanded as his 47% remarks. he previewed his explanation to denver fox affiliate. >> i'm a president for 100% of the american people. that is the real percent people care about. not 99% versus 1%. not 47%. i'm president for 100% of the people and demonstrated that throughout my life. >> within hours of the vice president remark in the state of the middle class in four years, ryan took him to task. >> vice president biden just today said that the middle class over the last four years has been, "buried." we agree. they're being buried by regulations, buried by taxes. buried by borrowing. they're being buried by the obama adm
, i'm not familiar with it. you also had paul ryan who in his abortion bill, anti-abortion bill basically had the term forcible rape. you had a series of things that have knocked it down to the benefit of the republican -- >> bill: how big -- the country is divided, it's almost more people are pro-life than pro choice. it's like 52-48, according to the latest poll. among just women, do you know what the stat is? >> i don't know the specific stat. but die know without making the sweeping generalization, a lot of women do tend to be single issue voters. at least in the past. the economy is really changed that. >> bill: it's hurting everybody. >> but there are still a significant amount of women who tend to vote single issue on the abortion issue. and that's why traditionally -- >> bill: do they vote the other way, pro-life? >> there are a lot of men in particular who happen to be pro-life. >> bill: i don't know how much -- >> traditionally, the democrats have enjoyed a lead among women because unmarried women tend to be more dependent on the government. >> bill: here is what i car
today? >> reporter: romney's number two, paul ryan, kept campaigning. >> the obama economic agenda failed not because it was stopped. it failed because it was passed. >> reporter: that's the kind of zinger sure to be heard tomorrow night. doug, andrew and chris say they hope to hear a lot of substance, too. a debate number one in their battleground state. >> reporter: so how critical will this first presidential debate be? today's nbc news "wall street journal" poll finds 38%, more than a third of voters say this debate and the ones to follow will be quite important or extremely important to their decision about who to vote for. live from denver, i'm steve handelsman, news 4. >> thanks, steve. and a program note. nbc news will provide live coverage and analysis of the presidential debate. you can watch it here on nbc 4 starting at 9:00 tomorrow night. >>> meanwhile a judge in pennsylvania has postponed the commonwealth's tough new voter i.d. law. that law requires each voter to show a valid photo i.d. at the polls. supporters say it will prevent voter fraud. critics say there's not
the way you frame your policy. one reason conservatives were very unimpressed as the paul ryan for someone who is very careful to say that i put a safety net. we want to make it more sustainable for the future. that message has gotten drowned out, in part because of how it is framed. because they haven't been able to successfully counter the framing coming from the other side. partly because it doesn't seem organic and natural. if you have someone who can make that argument any more compelling way, a more diverse electorate, maybe we would see a very different result. >> and trying to talk about republicans back into it. they are back into it because of the nature of the republican primary electorate. it is hard to see in the short run when you have the force that is putting that romney into much more conservative positions than he might normally take. >> that is a great and important point. we see when you see people that are able to overcome that, george w. bush is a classic example. it allows him to get through the primary process without having to establish authenticity to the extent t
against what is in the interest of the rodney team. maybe they thought that they nominated paul ryan and would be able to take advantage with what they believe to be this massive culturally conservative white working-class cooper voters but it does not seem to be happening. they're making some progress, according to the poll. some progress among white college graduates, but it's not anywhere close to what is needed to take the state. we are not able to sort of most of the state on the face of this ongoing demographic pattern of support. florida is a state that, let's face it, if our romney campaign loses florida they're chances of winning the 2012 collection are close to zero. and right now at this point the obama campaign is running a little bit ahead, by several points according to latest polls. again, if we look at the pattern of support among groups like hispanics, like the pattern of support, the best group for romney to make progress in. we will look at the breakouts. we're not seeing any province being made among these voters. we're not seeing a noticeably bigger margin among
of the romney team in wisconsin. so maybe they thought if they nominate paul ryan they would be able to take advantage what they believe to be this massive culturally conservative white working-class voters in the state but again it doesn't seem to be happening. they are making some progress, some progress among current nine but it's not anywhere close to what's needed to take the state. so they're not able to sort of master the state in the face of this demographic change and support. florida is a state that lets face it is the romney campaign loses florida, their chances of winning the 2012 election are close to zero i think. and right now this point the obama campaign is running a little bit ahead in florida by several points, according to the latest polls. if we look at the pattern of support among groups like hispanics, we look at the patter of support among groups like the white working-class where again you see the best group for romney, mccain carried in by 17 points in 2008. we look at the breakout and we are not seeing any progress being made among these voters. we are not saying a
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